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Ozempic Gone Again !!!!

  • 1.  Ozempic Gone Again !!!!

    Posted 14 days ago

    I am living on a cliffs edge mentally. This ongoing issue of not being able to source necessary medications, (not just Ozempic) I rang 15 chemists last Friday before I found one an hours drive away that had any available. One said he had it but because I am not a regular customer he wouldn't let me have any. I can't rely on my usual Pharmacy as he kept my 'script for 4 months & failed to notify me that stick had come in. It's not the dosage I require but anything is better than nothing. Now to start ringing around again . TGA say it is limited availability. Limited to who. City folk only !!! I thank the pharmacy that had some available and for his vigilance in making sure I am a bona fide Type 2 Diabetic by asking for my NDSS card. I also showed him my Diabetes Australia membership and showed him the Libre sensor in my arm. It shouldn't be this hard to try & stay healthy. I am over it !!!!



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    Ursula
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  • 2.  RE: Ozempic Gone Again !!!!

    Posted 14 days ago

    Sorry to hear. I have had no difficulty for several months now. My local pharmacy is in a suburban metropolitan city though. Best wishes. Previously I did have to ring around. It was so frustrating and I still don't really trust my luck.Best wishes.



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    Ann
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  • 3.  RE: Ozempic Gone Again !!!!

    Posted 14 days ago
    Edited by Helen 14 days ago

    I thought the situation with ozempic Had improved I personally don't believe that people without a diabetic diagnosis should ever been allowed to access this drug. It is a quick for most fix without the diabetic diagnosis. I have battle with my weight all my life not to the extent of being morbidly obese but I've had to work on it with a healthy lifestyle and exercise. I feel each case should have been looked into thoroughly before writing a script .people want a quick ffix without putting in some hard work and this is why supply is  low everywhere. perhaps it's time to look for a new chemist. That actually invested, in his clients good luck with your search 



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    Helen
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  • 4.  RE: Ozempic Gone Again !!!!

    Posted 13 days ago

    "I personally don't believe that people without a diabetic diagnosis should ever been allowed to access this drug."

    The Ozempic shortage is worldwide. To have any real effect the control you suggest would have to be applied globally, and particularly in the USA. And that's not going to happen.



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    Paul D
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  • 5.  RE: Ozempic Gone Again !!!!

    Posted 14 days ago

    You have my utost sypathy Ursula.  I have been down the same road and I simply gave up.  Ozempic is not supplied to regional Australia on any sort of regular or sustainable basis. It has been stop/start all the way such that I simpy gave up.  I moved to slow release once a day insulin and combined with the CGM device I have things well under control.

    One thing I found with stop/start Ozempic was that my gut started to become intolerant so I am happy to have moved away from that side effect.  I am hoping Mounjauro may become available one day on the PBS although I think demand is outstripping supply for this drug too - it is a much better option than Ozempic by all accounts.

    I hear your frustration and my only way of dealing with it was to walk away. Ozempic, if it is not sustainably available, offers no solution to a T2 diabetic.  Have to leave it to the fatties who have the supplies cornered.



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    Christopher
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  • 6.  RE: Ozempic Gone Again !!!!

    Posted 14 days ago

    Christopher according to the TGA monjouro is already unavailable.



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    Ursula
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  • 7.  RE: Ozempic Gone Again !!!!

    Posted 14 days ago

    Maunjouro is available in Australia and I understand the cost is between $320  and $600 or so per month.  It has not been included on the PBS so it is not subsidised as is Ozempic. It can be prescribed for T2D.



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    Christopher
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  • 8.  RE: Ozempic Gone Again !!!!

    Posted 9 days ago

    Not asking for pharmacist's shop name or their name but just curious as to where you're located.

    I live in Canberra and haven't been without Ozempic during the "shortage" but did have to go to "half-dose" (either red pen or use the blue pen with only half the number of clicks to 1mg).

    I do find it strange that you haven't been able to get a reasonable supply but, to be honest, it doesn't surprise me.

    From your comments, in my opinion, it doesn't sound as if your pharmacy is looking after you and your health.  My pharmacy (not a discount one) has looked after me and my needs for quite a few years.  They know what I take and help me even when there are shortages in supply of various drugs.  (Isn't that what your local pharmacy should do?)

    Did your pharmacy say why they haven't been able to source Ozempic for you?  (Do they have an issue with their supplier?)

    Maybe it's time, if you have the ability, to move your business to another local pharmacy that will understand your needs and will help to look after your health.

    If I've misread the situation, please explain further.



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    Randy G
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  • 9.  RE: Ozempic Gone Again !!!!

    Posted 9 days ago

    It seems to me those that live in state capitals and Canberra really have no understanding of the unreliability of supplies of Ozempic to the regional areas of Australia. I live in Port Macquarie where we have perhaps 12 pharmacies in the town area and the supply of Ozempic has been absolutely unreliable.  I have started and stopped Ozempic 3 times because of the complete absence of any supply  To give an instance, my regular pharmnacy often gets as many as 6 scripts worth in a delivery which may be as frequent as once every 3/4 weeks.  When supplying up to 25/50 T2 diabetics 3 to 6 scripts worth goes nowhere.

    People that can go to their regular pharmacy and actually get their scripts filled is not the usual occurrence in regional towns. It is totally hit and miss.  It is also wasteful because, to combat this situation, at one stage I had live scripts for full dosage and for introductory dosages.  The pharmacist was ablke to fill whichever one he had stock.  But even then there were periods where the supply dried up.

    I gave up.  There is no point in the stop/start regime and as a user of Janumet/Metformin it also meant carrying scripts for both because when on Ozempic Janumet cannot be taken - Metformin is the drug.  Chopping and changing presents all sorts of difficulties.

    I do have a cupboard stacked with both and that is very wasteful and very costly.  Yet none of it can be returned and used once dispensed to me.

    The shortage continues worldwide - whether that remains because of usage by fatties or an increasing demand from T2 s has never been clear to me. One thing is for sure, however, the unreliability of supply means it is a relatively useless drug for me and so my reliance on injectable insulin continues.

    One needs to remember that aside from T2 and fatties, Ozempic has benefits for CKD sufferers too. Perhaps that is further driving the shortages which, I understand, may be more related to supply of the pen devices than the actual liquid.



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    Christopher
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  • 10.  RE: Ozempic Gone Again !!!!

    Posted 8 days ago

    I live in the Southern Highlands. My Chemist is tearing his hair out , he checked again this morning and found he is down for a delivery sometime in October. Been advised by several Chemist to go to a Metropolitan area as they receive more supplies than country areas !!!!  Amcal Chemists have it but refuse to sell it to me as I'm not a regular customer.  Looks like I'll have to go to Canberra but I'll ring first.



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    Ursula
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  • 11.  RE: Ozempic Gone Again !!!!

    Posted 8 days ago

    I certainly don't mean to offend anyone here and I apologise in advance if I do.....

    Seriously.... how did we all survive before Ozempic????

    This has far reaching complications for supply and I feel it should never have been introduced in the first place.

    You have those who need it for medical reasons and those who don't.  Those who do not should never been issued a script without a full medical.  To loose weight the 'lazy way' is not good enough or I'm sure they jumped on the "mental health bandwagon" while that is the forefront if all else failed.

    It has more cons than pros from every facet of it.   what happened to people taking personal responsibility for their lives ....  I have had to vigantly look at every label everytime I want to eat but it is waht it is, I'm still alive and hope to be for a lot longer yet.  Those who are struggling, stressed out regarding ozempic is it really worth it?

    All i've heard from this is about the fatties (non diabetic) bragging how much weight they lost but at what cost?  "food for thought"



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    Helen
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  • 12.  RE: Ozempic Gone Again !!!!

    Posted 8 days ago

    Helen

    Ozempic is a last resort for me. I am injecting insulin four times a day and watching my BGL's climb. I have seen a Nutritionist as the Dietitians were no help. I have a low histamine, low carbohydrate & low yeast diet. I exercise almost everyday for an hour (Did the Beat it Programme and stayed on at the gym, do Line Dancing and Pilates as well as walking. Medications pile on the weight and due to MCAS  (brought on by Pfizer) I have Chronic Fatigue. I was allergic to Trulicity and was loathe to try Ozempic thinking it would be the same but it is having a good effect. The crux of the problem is Metropolitan areas are everything to the government us Country Cousins come last in any sphere. Maybe Diabetes Australia can look into the disparity City vs Country and get us equal rights to medication and services.



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    Ursula
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  • 13.  RE: Ozempic Gone Again !!!!

    Posted 8 days ago

    Hi Ursala,

    I concur, I too reside in a regional area and we are constantly overlooked.   I feel sorry for the people who need this to have good quality of life. It should never have been this hard for diabetics to access a drug like ozempic to enhance their lives.  All the best with your journey.



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    Helen
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  • 14.  RE: Ozempic Gone Again !!!!

    Posted 8 days ago
    Edited by Ann 8 days ago

    Helen Ozempic prescription is for management of my blood glucose. I am not overweight any more. I have been overweight from time to time and my endocrinologist noted I was about 8 kg overweight when I started Ozempic. He is very  careful to ensure I don't lose more weight now. It has been very beneficial for me in terms of blood glucose control. The trouble with media and others including a recent DA speaker is that they don't specify that clearly enough.



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    Ann
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  • 15.  RE: Ozempic Gone Again !!!!

    Posted 8 days ago

    It seems there is a bit of a mix up about Ozempic. I understand it was developed as a very relevant aid in the treatment regime for T2 diabetics. Its objective was better blood glucose control and it worked - very well.  There are side effects that are tolerable for many and not so tolerable for a few.

    It was found, after usage, that a side benefit was the way in which it promoted weight loss - something that tends to be an issue with many people with T2 diabetes. In time the fat people discovered this through their doctors and they began prescribing it for that purpose.  I understand that over time it can bring about a weight loss of about 10% with continued usage.  Over weight people could probably achieve that in 90% of instances by simply closing their mouths and/or changing their diets. Ozempic has given them an ability to lose weight without having to discipline themselves to that extent.

    I also nderstand that Izempic has been found to provide significant benefits to people with chronic kidney disease - a downstream potential problem for T2 diabetics among others.  So the usefulness of Ozempic has expanded over time and it serves a much wider market than the one it was designed for and aimed at.

    It is not, therefore, something that belongs in the exclusive preseve of the T2D people. Consequently we fight with competing needs of other people - hence the situation we have today.

    There is no doubt as to its effectiveness for managing T2D as it progresses and it is certainly a simpler methodology than injecting insulin daily.  My own experience with Ozempic (it disagreed with my gut!) was that I had to continue with lower doses of insulin, but I could not eliminate the insulin altogether.

    So it is a wonder drug in many respects but it is not the total solution. I continue to monitor BG levels using a CGM device and personally I believe government would be much better served by subsidising thopse devices and encouraging T2Ds to monitor their activity and foods on a continuous basis with the objective of achieving better health than relying oin Ozempic.



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    Christopher
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