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After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

  • 1.  After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 25-05-2022 09:27
    Edited by Greg 25-05-2022 18:35
    Hello everyone,

    It's been exactly three years since I achieved and maintained my remission from Type 2 Diabetes (T2D), regularly recording my Hba1c in the low fives, from just six months after my initial T2D diagnosis.

    Currently there is no sign of my remission status falling over anytime soon.

    I've found that the overwhelming consensus in the on-line medical research world is that people who are living with T2D, have developed a basic intolerance to Carbohydrates and Sugars in their diet, perhaps after a long period of poor (perhaps unknowing) dietary choices during their lifetime.

    Remission, or any improvement in a persons T2D condition appears highly dependent upon severely restricting carbohydrates, sugars and processed chemical laden foods from the persons current diet.

    Typically, the Standard Australian Dietary (SAD) guidelines would have a person living with T2D consuming up to six meals a day and digesting 300 grams of carbohydrate and sugars, whereas to get my T2D into remission, my carbs and sugars were restricted to 30 grams per day, over two meals a day.

    People following the SAD guidelines, as promoted by most Australian accredited dieticians (supposedly, one size fits all), have very little chance of improving their diabetic condition, and absolutely no chance of achieving remission from this disease, and so they are effectively placed into a long term medicated palliative care arrangement.

    During my initial research all those years ago, I found a YouTube channel run by Dennis Pollock, called Beat Diabetes.

    Dennis has written three books on how to control T2D by severely restricting carbs and sugars in your diet as well as practicing time restricted eating (fasting).

    This is basically how I achieved and maintained my remission status.

    The trick is to find those foods that are enjoyable to eat (and easy to maintain eating), and that do not spike your blood glucose levels (BGLs) one to two hours after eating them.

    After every new meal type, I use a blood glucose meter to measure and identify any unacceptable elevation in my BGLs.

    If the new food type spikes my BGLs, then that food is immediately placed on the banned list, and if it does not spike my BGLs, I know it will be safe to eat that food again in the future.

    Over a short period of time I was able to compile a personal (because everyone is a little different) BGL Meter Approved list of foods that are entirely suitable for me to consume regularly.

    These chosen foods and recipes are safe, enjoyable and nutritious, but don't always align to other particular generic ways of eating in their entirety. For example, my food list is not totally Keto, Mediterranean, Pritikin, Vegan or Vegetarian, etc. It's a mixture of all of these.

    Strictly following this food choice strategy, and ignoring the SAD guidelines, has helped me to successfully achieve and maintained my remission from T2D.

    Many other people living with T2D, and implementing this simple food choice strategy have also managed to eliminate or reduce the need for harmful diabetic medications, and to improve a lot of other personal holistic health markers in our older age."

    For example, since remission, my blood pressure has returned to well within normal levels, my cardio issues have recovered, my early onset arthritis inflammation is gone, energy levels have increased markedly, my cholesterol ratios have improved, and my triglyceride levels reduced to the beneficial lower ranges. All good stuff.

    But I remain very frustrated to see so many people still physically suffering from T2D issues, when I know that if they were encouraged to follow this simple food choice method, they could easily achieve remission very quickly, just like I did, as well as ditch all of their harmful T2D drugs and insulin so freely dished out by our GPs.

    On the positive side, in Australia, we have many groups and organisations working and growing to educate and reverse the consistently increasing  number of T2D cases being diagnosed every day.

    Such as;
    CSIRO - Total well being Diet program
    Defeat Diabetes
    Low Carb Down-under - Includes a list of Low Carb friendly GPs and Dieticians located around Australia
    Ditch the Carbs (NZ)
    Low Carb Healthy Fats - Facebook group


    Cheers,
    Greg


    Reversing Type 2 diabetes starts with ignoring the guidelines | Sarah Hallberg | TEDxPurdueU

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  • 2.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 25-05-2022 18:07
    There is a Facebook page: 
    Dr Brukner's Defeat Diabetes
    with lots of useful information, videos and also recipes.



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  • 3.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 26-05-2022 11:18
    Edited by Greg 26-05-2022 11:23
    Hi Gianna,

    Yes, Dr Brukner's Defeat Diabetes Australia group is really excellent for people living with T2D who want to improve their condition or achieve remission.

    They have a great website to explore with lots of articles and links.

    Last year, even though I was already in T2D Remission, I decided to subscribe to their member services anyway.

    I now have full access to all of their extras.

    That includes their low carb meal plans, great new recipes, regular webinars and member articles, etc., as well as a great smartphone app to access most things.

    I am very happy with the value, and receiving the very helpful and latest scientific information that they provide to members.

    Their low carb healthy fat dietary program is built around helping people currently living with T2D, to successfully achieve remission and to free themselves of harmful medications and insulin.

    Defeat Diabetes is a Doctor and Dietician led program, that is very well supported by an Australia-wide network of low carb healthy fat, Dieticians

    I understand that their Dieticians can consult remotely, using Telehealth facilities.

    I would highly recommend them to everyone, living with Diabetes or not.

    Defeat Diabetes
    Home - Menu Concepts
    Nicole Moore (Master Nutr. APD) · Defeat Diabetes


    Cheers,
    Greg




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  • 4.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 26-05-2022 09:20

    Hello Greg,
    l appreciate your passing on the results of all your research. I totally agree about the method of monitoring what foods spike and tailoring one's diet to be unique to each individual. It works for me. 

    I have a problem monitoring my Hba1c  on a regular basis as my GP only allows one referral a year.
    I would like to have it once every 3-4 months. Does your GP approve more than one test a year ?
    How do you manage to have tests more frequently?
    Thanks
    Anne Marie



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  • 5.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 26-05-2022 10:42
    Hi Anne Marie,

    My GP tests my Hba1c every three months.

    I must be pretty boring for him, but he is always a happy soul when I see him.

    I assumed it was a normal process if you're diagnosed as a T2D.

    He checks everything.
    Annual full blood tests, cardio and skin checks,, as well as offering the 5x allied health care team appointments every year. 
    I usually only choose the Podiatrist.

    I feel well looked after.

    There are lots of Low Carb friendly Doctors and Dieticians out there.

    If I had my time again, I would ensure that I looked specifically for them.

    Cheers,
    Greg


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  • 6.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 26-05-2022 13:11
    Thanks Greg

    Anne Marie Craine
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  • 7.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 26-05-2022 13:39
    Hi Greg:

    So nice of you to post your remission of your Diabetes for all the three years.  So happy for you and I wish i could do the same.  Most of the time my readings are on the 4-to 4.5 and the highest is 5.5 even after two hours from lunch it goes up to 7. My latest HbA1c  is 6.1 and yet my GP refuses to reduce my medication for as far as he is concerned I have all those low readings due to the right medication given to me.

    So would appreciate any suggestion you might have.  I know about Dennis and Benedicta Diet but it is not easy for me to have to cook daily meals for 3 individual people at home but do try to cut down on the carbs and sugar and fasting i more or less skip lunch since we do have morning tea and by the time that is finished i do not feel like having lunch.

    Again I thank you for all the hard work and input you share with us all the time.

    Gratefully yours,

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  • 8.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 28-05-2022 08:17
    Edited by Greg 28-05-2022 08:18
    Hi Carmen,

    It's good that you are lowering your carbs and seeing some positive results.

    Your doctor is probably a little cautious with de-prescribing from your current medication levels too early, which is understandable, but at some point, I would think he should do so if your Hba1c continues to trend lower towards non diabetic levels. Hang in there.

    Once he acknowledges the positive changes that you are making to your way of eating, and the lower BGL levels being achieved, he should act on that.

    I'm always looking for changes that I can make to my existing meals that will help me lower my carb count overall.

    There are heaps of low carb cooking sites out there, and I'm always trolling through them to get some new ideas and recipes that will further benefit my low carb needs, as well as the taste buds of the other two adults in our household.

    ♻️ 31 Easy Carb Substitutes (Keto Cheat Sheets) – Ditch The Carbs

    If your GP comes back and says, "Oh, you should be eating more carbs, because your medications are sending your BGLs too low"…......I would Definitely ditch that GP and look for one that appreciates what you are trying to do, and is competent enough to manage the de-prescribing process for you.

    https://youtu.be/MrsMd_zGrek

    Cheers,
    Greg

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  • 9.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 27-05-2022 06:52
    HBA1C every three months is normal because that's how long it takes the body to do a complete blood recycle.
    My routine is as follows:-
    Blood tests (ordered by my very good endo) every three months. Followed by alternate three-monthly consults with endo & GP, thus ensuring GP is kept in the loop. If anything out of the ordinary occurs (ie I started Trulicity 2 weeks ago) we'll skip a GP consult for successive endo consults. Endo also encourages me to email her if BGLs are out of the ordinary (not many would do that). This all works very well for me.

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  • 10.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 28-05-2022 07:02
    I suggest you change GP or better still ask for a referral to an Endocrinologist

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  • 11.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 28-05-2022 07:27
    Anne Marie.
    I'm a little confused here. Has your GP referred you to an endocrinologist? Or do you mean he/she will only refer you for blood tests once a year? Either way, if it is at all practical you need to change your GP.
    A referral by a GP to a specialist is normally valid for one year, but the specialist can see you as often as they deem necessary during that year. And at least in my case (and I assume generally) it's the specialist endocrinologist who decides how frequently tests are taken. The standard for HbA1C is three monthly.
    Insist that your GP refer you to an endocrinologist, preferably one with a specific interest in diabetes.

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  • 12.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 26-05-2022 21:23
    Hi Greg

    I am just starting my T2D journey and am really struggling .. its a case of blood sugars are high take these tablets... but I must admit I feel worse now than ever. Please can you give me some ideas of your menus.... really floundering here... I would really appreciate some breakfast lunch ad dinner meals I could follow and get me on track to kicking this horrid thing

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  • 13.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 26-05-2022 22:50
    Dear Jenni,
    I do sympathise with your struggle as to"where do l start"? It is overwhelming.
    Read the articles Greg has written and look at the links. I know it is a lot but very helpful.
    You could look at Dennis Pollocks videos on Utube and follow the diet he suggests.
    ie very little carbs, no sugar, eat twice a day only within 6 hours to allow the body to rest and repair itself during the other 12 hours. Though his programme is half way through you could start now and back track the other 3 months at the end.

    Also the important thing is to MONITOR, MONITOR, MONITOR your blood sugar:
    In the morning before you eat, an hour after you have eaten( to check for a "spike" in sugar level) and 2 hours after a meal to see if your sugar has settled down.

    First thing in the morning your sugar level should be in the low 5s or less.
    I am not so sure after 1 hour . Probably less than 8 but certainly not above 10(spike)
    After 2 hours l like my sugar level to be 8 or below.
    This way you will find the foods that your unique body can tolerate/process
    Everyone is different.

    I could not do Dennis Pollock's diet having had 3 meals a day for 75 years.
    But l could cut back carbs gradually. 
    A few suggestions:
    Breakfast: an omelette with any of cheese, sliced tomato, mushrooms, spinach, shallots.
    If you don't want to do an omelette you could do the same with scrambled eggs.
    You can make a shakshuka (its easy, google it)
    Grilled mushroom topped with bacon and tomato or anything you fancy but not crumbs.

    Lunch: any salad or a soup. I love soups and try all different sorts. Your system may be ok with a bit of potato or root vegetables: you need to test.  It is a great time for pumpkin soup and you can make a big batch varying it by adding a bit of coconut  milk one day, doing it Asian style another, popping fried little meat balls in it another time.
    I love surfing the net for interesting soups and meals with very low carbohydrates.

    Dinner is easy: lots of green vegetables (grow your own?) and small amounts of meat or fish or just other veggies. I love spinach pie (without a crust) and salad. 
    Sweets (if l have any) is usually berries and yoghurt or whipped cream.
    If not berries then poached pears or apples with lemon and sugar substitute.

    I have actually started folders for One Pan Meals,  Vegetarian , Soups, Meat dishes.
    If a meal results in good blood sugar reading l put it in the appropriate folder.

     If you like we can talk on the phone and l can email you some recipes. 
    I hope this is of some help Jenni.

    If anyone objects to anything l said please make a comment.

    Anne Marie 






  • 14.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 28-05-2022 09:38
    Edited by Greg 28-05-2022 09:43
    Hi Jeni,

    When I was first diagnosed with T2D, my then (former) GP insisted that I begin taking Metformin straight away.

    He did not give me any credible advice about making lifestyle or dietary changes that may improve my diagnosis without the need for drugs.

    As far as he was concerned, I must take Metformin, my T2D would get progressively worse, I will suffer from diabetes related illnesses, I will eventually need to inject insulin in increasing quantities, and then I will pass.
    The consultation ended in 8 minutes, and I never saw him again.

    When I googled Metformin, I found a lot of information about the side effects that some people experienced when taking it, and as well as that, some sites advised very strongly not to take Metformin if you were already taking a particular type of drug, which I was at the time (also prescribed by my former doctor).

    So, these days, I am very cautious about medications prescribed.
    I do my own checking as well, so that I know what to expect.

    My successful journey to remission from T2D within six months of diagnosis, involved a lot of googling about beating diabetes and gaining as much knowledge as possible.

    Eventually I was convinced that it was definitely possible to do, because of the huge amount of official scientific studies, trials and evidence available, and the fact that a large number of people were reversing their T2D already, mostly by simply and strictly, reducing the consumption of carbohydrates in their diet.

    For me, I aimed for 30 grams of carbs per day, over two only, meals per day.

    A large part of my remission solution was finding the foods that that did not elevate my blood sugars (BGLs) in the one and two hour period after eating.

    To know this, I needed to test myself after every new meal type.

    If my BGLs spiked too high, I did not eat that food again, no matter who has told me that it was good for me.

    Eventually I was able to find foods that I enjoyed eating, and which were healthy for me. 
    Remission followed.

    If I was starting this process again, I would begin with visiting some of the following sites, read as much as I can to understand T2D and to find the low carb foods that are acceptable to me, and to keep repeating.

    I would aim to be very knowledgeable about T2D, so that I can identify and ignore the unhelpful information and outdated health advice that I will come across.

    CSIRO - Total well being Diet program - Low Carb meal plans available

    Defeat Diabetes - The best site for T2D practical information to achieve remission - Free information & Join for meal plans

    Low Carb Down-under - Includes a list of Low Carb friendly GPs and Dieticians located around Australia

    Ditch the Carbs (NZ) - A really great site to read up on everything about the low carb way of eating. Lots of meal plans, recipes and free advice.

    Low Carb Healthy Fats - Facebook group - Search in Facebook for, Reversing Diabetes, Low Carb, LCHF, etc.

    Search YouTube for - Dr. Sarah Hallberg, Dr Robert Lustig, Dr, Jason Fung, Beat Diabetes, Dr. Sten Ekberg, Dr. Eric Berg, Dr Pradip Jamnadas, Dr Ken Berry, anything keto and low carb recipe sites

    Diet Doctor

    Cheers,
    Greg

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  • 15.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 28-05-2022 09:53
    In complete contrast to Greg's initial experience, the ONLY thing my GP did was to refer me to a very good endocrino9logist and arrange an early appointment with same.

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  • 16.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 29-05-2022 10:14
    Yes Paul, that is exactly what my doctor did - refer me to a very good endocrinologist. Her husband (a doctor) is a T2 diabetic so she is aware of the issues and specialises in diabetes. I have been a T2 for 33 years and the first 20 years I got into remission by diet and exercise. I also participated in 4 different research studies  on T2 diabetes by University of Qld where I learnt a lot. About 13 years ago I developed other health issues and had pancreas issues  and now I am on three different medications and insulin. There are other health issues you need to keep covered when carry out your normal life style. I have been retired for 20 years and am 73 years old. I do voluntary work helping seniors with their computer/technology issues, go cruising, play Bridge and travel OS to my daughters place in Southern England. As you can read, diabetes need not stop you from carrying out a normal life.
     My endocrinologist get me to have blood test every three months and keeps in contact with my GP and cardiologist.

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  • 17.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 30-05-2022 08:45
    Hello Gary,
    When you say you have a very good endocrinologist, could you give some tips as to how one can tell if they are really thorough. One usually has no comparison when referred. Thanks

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  • 18.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 31-05-2022 07:18

    Hello Anne Marie, I'm not Gary ????, but this may be helpful.
    Where I live, there is no endo and my kidney specialist referred me to a GP who specialises in low carb eating - so another person on my appointments list, and well worth while. They all keep in touch with each other and my blood tests are at least each 3 months, sometimes more often. And all but one appointment is bulk billed.

    I have just tried to find a listing of low carb practitioners, seems it is not too easy, perhaps the web sites keep changing. I've gone into a few sites just now and the only site that seems to work is to type in < https://lowcarbpractitioners.com/directory/>, from there scroll down to Search By Location. Grab a coffee while you search, as it seems you must click on each practitioner to find their location.

    I also suffer from a very dry mouth, I will have many sips of water through the night, I presumed it was medication. There is a gel available from pharmacy's, but I didn't seem to cope with that. During the day I occasionally suck on a sugar-free mint, that can help for a while.

    Hope you recover well from your hip replacement.








  • 19.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 31-05-2022 19:15

    I have replied to Anne Marie via reply to sender not to group.

     

    Stay safe and well

    Cheers

    Gary

     






  • 20.  RE: After Three Years, I'm Still in Remission from T2D.

    Posted 31-05-2022 11:45
    I'm newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes in late April. I'm almost 46 and otherwise reasonably fit and healthy. I've been taking Jardiamet twice a day and controlling my BGL using the CSIRO low carb for diabetes diet. So far so great except I would like some advice on:

    1. - stopping losing weight when you get to your goal weight (I'm almost 55kg which is middle of my healthy range) 
    2. - pushing back on my diabetes educator and doctor who both seem determined I need to start taking Gliclazide even though it says I can't take anti inflammatory medication when I do, so I would not be able to manage occasional rheumatoid arthritis flares


    - avoiding production of ketones and Diabetic ketoacidosis.

    I should also add I'm vegetarian but eating protein by eggs, tofu, soy sausages etc and textured vegetable protein.


    thanks for any advice and help. 

    cheers, 
    Donna 



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