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  • 1.  Travel cool bags

    Posted 19-02-2024 11:48

    Hi fellow type 1

    I have recently moved to using a TSlim control iq pump. I will be travelling overseas in May for 6 weeks UK and Singapore. I am seeking advice about the Frio cool bags for insulin. I have previously used these for insulin pens when travelling. My question is can they be used for 10 ml insulin vials also ? Or what do any of you use for international long haul flights? Appreciate any feedback.



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    Jennifer
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  • 2.  RE: Travel cool bags

    Posted 19-02-2024 20:13

    I have used the Frio for 20 years and when I got the first ones, they advertised it with both pens and vials. 

    I have travelled all over the world including numerous intercontinental long haul flights using Frio cooling and have never had a problem with insulin.. 



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    Martin (type 1 IDDM since 2000)
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  • 3.  RE: Travel cool bags

    Posted 21-02-2024 23:40

    A study recently in "medicalnewstoday.com "where they did an extensive study, they found insulin does not need to be refrigerated. Has that been confirmed?



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    Paul D
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  • 4.  RE: Travel cool bags

    Posted 26-02-2024 12:42

    Not sure if access is restricted outside research organisations, but I just found a Cochrane review of something like 22 papers and additional data from manufacturers showing no clinically significant loss of viability for insulin stored at high temperatures for several months. Even when activity does begin to decline, it's in the range of a couple of % decline, not massive loss of function.

    "The review found that it is possible to store unopened vials and cartridges of specific types of human insulin at temperatures of up to 25°C for a maximum of six months, and up to 37°C for a maximum of two months, without any clinically relevant loss of insulin activity. Data from one study showed no loss of insulin activity for specific insulin types when stored in oscillating ambient temperatures of between 25°C and 37°C for up to three months. This fluctuation resembles the day-night temperature cycles experienced in tropical countries." From: https://www.cochrane.org/news/human-insulin-less-temperature-sensitive-previously-thought

    A more detailed summary of the same review says "In the clinical study, authors investigated insulin stored for six weeks in an unglazed clay pot or in a refrigerator. Outside temperatures were between 34 °C and 43 °C, and clay pot temperatures were between 25 °C and 27 °C. The study authors only reported on the glucose level in the blood of eight healthy volunteers after injecting clay‐pot‐stored insulin or refrigerator‐stored insulin. Insulin in the clay pot had similar glucose‐lowering activity to insulin in a refrigerator.

    Laboratory studies on prefilled syringes stored at 4 °C to 23 °C for up to 28 days showed no clinically relevant loss of insulin activity.

    Nine laboratory studies examined unopened vials and cartridges. In studies with no clinically relevant loss of insulin activity, temperatures ranged between 28.9 °C and 37 °C for up to four months. Two studies reported a more pronounced loss of insulin activity after one week to 28 days at 37 °C. Four studies examined opened vials and cartridges at up to 37 °C for up to 12 weeks, and showed no clinically relevant reduction in insulin activity.

    Two laboratory studies analysed storage conditions for shifting temperatures between 25 °C and 37 °C up to 12 weeks, resembling daytime and night‐time fluctuations in tropical countries. There was no loss of insulin activity for short‐acting, intermediate‐acting and mixed insulin (a combination of short‐acting and intermediate‐acting human insulin).

    Four laboratory studies, two on vials, one of them on opened vials, and two on prefilled syringes, investigated sterility and reported no bacterial contamination.

    Four manufacturers provided previously unpublished temperature and storage conditions data. If unopened human insulin vials or cartridges were stored at up to 25 °C for a maximum of six months or at up to 37 °C for a maximum of two months, only small amounts of insulin activity were lost. " From: https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD015385.pub2/full

    So basically, TL;DR version, even if you're travelling for a couple of months in tropical regions with no refrigerator access, you should be fine. Ideally, if possible, store your insulin in the fridge, but don't stress if you can't. Even when loss of activity was noted in the studies, for most cases the loss was in the zone of less than 5% loss - for most applications, this probably wouldn't even add up to 1 extra unit needing to be injected!



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    Todd
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  • 5.  RE: Travel cool bags

    Posted 26-02-2024 13:41

    Thanks Todd. That's really interesting and helpful.

    Annette



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    Annette
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  • 6.  RE: Travel cool bags

    Posted 26-02-2024 14:07
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  • 7.  RE: Travel cool bags

    Posted 28-02-2024 12:30

    Thank you Todd.  I used to live in the tropics for a long time and travelled a lot in hot climates.   I got tired of taking a lot of trouble to keep insulin cool and then did some research (>25 years ago) which found some temperature sensitivity data from a manufacturer (lost it now).  It was consistent to your discoveries.  

    I agree that even if a couple of % sensitivity is lost, its very small compared to the biological changes in insulin demand that we experience every day. 

    Once or twice a year I strongly suspect that my insulin had lost its potency, but changing to a new vial rarely made a difference.

    I've travelled for two weeks in rural East Temor for two weeks without refrigeration and didn't notice any change in potency.

    I like your conclusion: "...if possible, store your insulin in the fridge, but don't stress if you can't."



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    Jock
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  • 8.  RE: Travel cool bags

    Posted 22-02-2024 11:18

    Hi All,

    I travel overseas for up to 6 weeks at a time and my Endocrinologist advised me about 9 years ago that I do not need to carry my insulin in a frio or similar freeze bag.

    As long as you are not stupid and leave unused insulin in a hot area it is fine for up to 6 weeks.

    I have type 1 for 38 years and never had any trouble with my insulin.

    Hope this helps.

    Jeff - Redcliffe



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    Jeffrey
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  • 9.  RE: Travel cool bags

    Posted 25-02-2024 16:09

    Hi Jennifer

    I have used the Frio system (2 different sizes) for several trips over several years, including 3 months around UK/Europe, and I have found them very useful for both 3 ml vials of short-acting and spare long-acting pens (needed in the case of pump failure). As you would already know, there is a degree of inconvenience because I understand, to be effective, they need to be able to breathe so you have to be careful how you carry/store them. They do not keep your spare insulin as cool as a refrigerator would, but personally if I was travelling to an area with warm-hot weather such as Singapore I would definitely be carrying my insulin in Frio packs. Happy travels!

    Annette



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    Annette
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