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Pen Needles : BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm, Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm

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Anonymous Member10-04-2024 15:34

  • 1.  Pen Needles : BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm, Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm

    Posted 16-10-2022 13:15

    I have been Type 1 for nearly 51 years. I am on multiple daily injections.

     

    I had been using BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm needles until they disappeared from pharmacies and the NDSS list some time ago and then changed to Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm as the best replacement being very similar structure to the BD model. I found that the design of the needle cover on each of these models made them  far easier to remove and replace than other versions I had tried.

     

    I have today been advised by the pharmacy that the Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm is now also not available. I have checked the NDSS website myself for confirmation and their order form does not include either of these models.

     

    Is DA, NDSS  or anyone else able to advise any further information on this - it is extremely disappointing when such good and suitable products are suddenly unavailable without any notice.

     

    Many thanks for any further information,

    Rob

     

     

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  • 2.  RE: Pen Needles : BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm, Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm

    Posted 16-10-2022 14:30
    Hi Rob,
    It's most unusual in that I have been using the BD Ultra Fine 4mm needles and have not been told by my Chemist of any shortages or discontinuation. Maybe, check online at Terry White or Chemist Warehouse to see if stock is available. The diabetes shop appears to have stock when I checked it on the web. Maybe, the chemist could look up another supplier.

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  • 3.  RE: Pen Needles : BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm, Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm

    Posted 16-10-2022 14:33
    Hi Rob, I could be mistaken. My box does not have Plus on it!

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  • 4.  RE: Pen Needles : BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm, Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm

    Posted 16-10-2022 15:24

    Thanks Michael.

    I can obtain the BD Ultra Fine, but it was the Ultra Fine Pro, that appears to have disappeared.

     

    I have now located the Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm on the NDSS Product Order Form on the NDSS  website ( my apologies for missing this previously).

     

    However Novo Fine Plus  do not appear on the NDSS printout of  available needle products that Chemist Warehouse gave me and on which they based their advice that they were not available. The printout is headed 'NDSS Connect', ( which says no information is available if you Google NDSS Connect), so there appears to be a problem somewhere. I'm unsure how the pharmacy managed to get a printout from NDSS Connect.

     

    Thanks again for your contact.

    Cheers

    Rob

     






  • 5.  RE: Pen Needles : BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm, Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm

    Posted 16-10-2022 15:01
    Hello Michael. Thank you for your prompt reply. 

    Yes, I can get the UltraFine, but not UltraFine Pro, which had a far better needle cover. 
    Rob





  • 6.  RE: Pen Needles : BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm, Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm

    Posted 17-10-2022 12:29
    Hi Rob,
    It must be very coincidental in that  this morning the Terry White Chemist didn't have my usual BD 4mm needles and handed me an alternate NovoFine Plus 32G 4mm. They must be in stock, so ask the chemist to check different suppliers.

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  • 7.  RE: Pen Needles : BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm, Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm

    Posted 17-10-2022 14:35
    Hello Michael. 

    Thank you very much for that advice.
     I had a call from Dale at DA this morning ( thank you Dale for the very prompt response). Dale  has been advised by Novo that the Novo Fine Plus is currently unavailable due to supply shortages and they don't know when supply will resume. It would seem that even tho' they still show on the NDSS order form on-line , they possibly may not be supplied. I will try Terry White as you suggest. Are you able to advise which T W pharmacy supplied them. I am resident in Brisbane. 

    Thanks again for your advice. 
    Kind regards
    Rob 





  • 8.  RE: Pen Needles : BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm, Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm

    Posted 17-10-2022 17:18
    Hi All
    Have had similar problems sourcing NovoFine 4mm needles and having the item removed from my NDSS profile.
    I contacted NDSS. They advised that the product is not currently available in Australia (unless a pharmacy has some old stock). Because of this it has been removed from their list of available items on profiles.
    Once stock is available it will return to people's profiles.
    In the meantime we are stuck with the BD 4mm needles.
    NDSS advised that If a pharmacy has stock, they will have to complete a manual form as the NovoFine 4mm needles will not appear on the computerised list under the persons NDSS profile on the computer.
    Hope this helps.


    Rochelle Jesser




  • 9.  RE: Pen Needles : BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm, Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm

    Posted 17-10-2022 17:18
    Hello Rob & everyone, I have been having trouble obtaining 6mm needles for the past few weeks.  No supply in northern NSW.  I can only get 8mm needles.  I've been told that 4mm are in short supply as people are getting 4mm instead of 6mm.  Even DA can't give an answer as to when supplies will be available again.  I'm using the needles several times instead of once or twice, to make a limited supply last longer!   Frances

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  • 10.  RE: Pen Needles : BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm, Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm

    Posted 10-04-2024 14:01

    I thought we were supposed to use the shorter 4mm needles, rather than the older 5 or 6 mm. What do specialists currently recommend? Needing 6 or 8 injections a day, I reuse needles for several days without problems, which will save $40+ a box, which leaves more money saved that taxpayers would have to fork out.



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  • 11.  RE: Pen Needles : BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm, Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm

    Posted 11-04-2024 13:05

    NEEDLES ARE FREE.



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  • 12.  RE: Pen Needles : BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm, Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm

    Posted 11-04-2024 14:26

    Nothing is "free", the taxpayer pays the NDSS to provide Diabetics with no-charge needles, etc, that I believe cost $40 or so a100. If we can save a box or 2 a month, I would love this savings to go on Diabetic research. I wonder what the total cost annually is for our needles?  



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  • 13.  RE: Pen Needles : BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm, Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm

    Posted 12-04-2024 10:05

    if i do not pay for it, it is free. what do you say to the druggies?



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  • 14.  RE: Pen Needles : BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm, Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm

    Posted 12-04-2024 23:39

    Janet, I & other taxpayers will have to pay indirectly for our syringes & needles & those for druggies, to reduce their reinfection rate & having to mug us or break into our homes to pay for them. I'm happy to subsidize these "free" essentials.  Diabetics always had to pay until after the outcry of druggies being given them. We diabetics are lucky to get these taxpayer-paid benefits, thanks to Diabetes Australia lobbying for us over the years.



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    Paul D
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  • 15.  RE: Pen Needles : BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm, Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm

    Posted 17-04-2024 13:56

    Hi all,

    Some information provided below by one of our health professionals on the reuse of needles, as the question has been raised with us on proper protocol.

    As this thread is also from 2022, I am going to close it now for comment. Please remember our guidelines of being kind and courteous to each other, and people are allowed differing opinions. We would also like to refrain from the use of slang terms like "druggies" for example, as they can be harmful to many. 

    This is the current guide from the Diabetes Australia website. Which the instructions list to attach a new needle with insulin injection.

    Then if you were to have a look at something like the Novo Nordisk pen needles for example, their website also has specific instructions to always use a new needle. 

    The guide would be to follow the manufacturers instructions (which for example Novo Nordisk lists a new needle each time as mentioned) and that our guide also says to attach a new needle as part of the step by step.



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    Natasha, Ange and Erin

    Membership and Community Team
    community@diabetesaustralia.com.au
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  • 16.  RE: Pen Needles : BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm, Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm

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  • 17.  RE: Pen Needles : BD Ultra Fine Pro 32G 4mm, Novo Fine Plus 32G 4mm

    Posted 10-04-2024 16:42

    i use unifine 32g from my pharmacy.



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    Janet
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